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Controversial conspiracy theorist David Icke told an Oxford audience that human beings are "holograms" and that the world was heading towards central control at the hands of a "fascist dictatorship".
The former goalkeeper and news presenter-turned outspoken commentator this week shared his radical views on politics and society with a rapt audience at the Oxford Union.
Mr Icke spent two hours expounding his theories to Oxford University students.
His claims included allegations that the 9/11 attacks were carried out to create a "one world government" and that the physical world is nothing but a holographic illusion.
Mr Icke, 56, told them: "The world isn't anything like you thought it was. We're watching a movie ... to give us the impression that we have freedom.
"The greatest form of control is a prison without bars. People will sit there forever because they don't think they are in a prison at all.
"The official version of events of 9/11 is an insult to the intelligence. We're being brain- washed with reasons to fear because that's the key to control.
"The goal is a centrally controlled fascist dictatorship."
He said Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and George W Bush were "puppets of a force that controls them", and claimed political parties were a "sham".
He went on to claim that the world was similar to the false reality presented in the movie The Matrix, adding: "The world we think is physical is an illusion. There is no 'over there' in terms of physical things.
"What is 'over there' are just frequency fields that we are decoding into a physical reality that only exists in our mind.
"The world that we think is physical is like a holographic TV channel. We're living in a holographic world. We're holograms."
Of his theories, Mr Icke said: "If I'm seen as sane by a world this crazy, I'm disappointed.
"Truth goes through three stages: first, it's ridiculed; second, it's violently opposed; and third, it's seen as self-evident. I know what the first one felt like - I got that in the early '90s."
Language student Jonny Wright, 21, said: "It's interesting. I wouldn't say I agreed with much of what he said.
"There's a point up to where it made sense and a point where it was getting silly. When he said the whole world is a hologram it went from credible stuff to incredible stuff."
Phillippa Lasocki, 20, a music student, said: "I think he's got some interesting ideas. I went in there with an open mind.
"He's a philosopher, and you can see the point he's making even if you don't agree with it."
David Icke was a former Coventry City and Hereford United goalkeeper until he was forced to retire in 1973 at the age of 21 because of arthritis.
He then became a journalist before moving into television as a stand-in presenter on the BBC show Grandstand.
He left the BBC after the summer Olympics in 1988 to become an activist in the Green Party and rose to the position of national spokesman (the party back then did not have leaders).
However he shot to fame in 1991 when he appeared on the Wogan chat show and announced to the country that he was "the son of God".
He later claimed he had been misinterpreted by the media.
Mr Icke has now published more than 20 books outlining his views including The Biggest Secret: The Book that Will Change the World in which he claimed that a race of reptilian humanoids is secretly controlling the world.
5:36pm Friday 29th February 2008
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CommentPosted by: David, Headington on 7:48pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Mr Ison and alan page; you are invited to respond!
Mr Icke awaits your reply!
Beware reptilian humanoids that are controlling the world.
Rumour has it that they are, or have, set up a base in BBL.
May explain some recent posts!
Mr Ison and alan page; you are invited to respond!
Mr Icke awaits your reply!
Beware reptilian humanoids that are controlling the world.
Rumour has it that they are, or have, set up a base in BBL.
May explain some recent posts!
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 8:07pm Fri 29 Feb 08
David Icke shows promise...
David Icke shows promise...
Posted by: what a nice view, meow on 10:22pm Fri 29 Feb 08
David icke wheres your [bold]real[/bold] hair!
David icke wheres your
real hair!
Posted by: Stuart, Oxford on 1:10am Sat 1 Mar 08
So is he still a member of the Green party? If so that speaks volumes.
So is he still a member of the Green party? If so that speaks volumes.
Posted by: Phillippa, Oxford on 4:58pm Mon 3 Mar 08
To dismiss this man's views as madness displays an ignorance and narrow-mindedness towards the undeniable facts of modern life that he calls into question.
The article's focus on Icke's description of the holographic nature of reality presents a distorted image of the talk as a whole which in fact addressed many wide-reaching and pertinent issues. In any case, his talk of 'holograms' is just an idiomatic term of reference for the existence of multiple dimensions which is now taken for granted in the scientific discipline of physics.
Icke gave a voice to many of the everyday concerns regarding our freedom that are woefully so regularly unarticulated. That the nanny state has developed to a worrying level can not be refuted. Icke's proposal that we will all be subject to microchips is not distantly related from the contemporaneous issue (in the news just this week in fact) of a DNA database. The man is right that we should question the increasingly restrictive grip the state has upon us and the parallel emergence of a global superstates before it is too late. Otherwise, as he insists, an Orwellian future is only a short matter of time.
To dismiss this man's views as madness displays an ignorance and narrow-mindedness towards the undeniable facts of modern life that he calls into question.
The article's focus on Icke's description of the holographic nature of reality presents a distorted image of the talk as a whole which in fact addressed many wide-reaching and pertinent issues. In any case, his talk of 'holograms' is just an idiomatic term of reference for the existence of multiple dimensions which is now taken for granted in the scientific discipline of physics.
Icke gave a voice to many of the everyday concerns regarding our freedom that are woefully so regularly unarticulated. That the nanny state has developed to a worrying level can not be refuted. Icke's proposal that we will all be subject to microchips is not distantly related from the contemporaneous issue (in the news just this week in fact) of a DNA database. The man is right that we should question the increasingly restrictive grip the state has upon us and the parallel emergence of a global superstates before it is too late. Otherwise, as he insists, an Orwellian future is only a short matter of time.
Posted by: Matthew, Birmingham on 6:42pm Tue 18 Mar 08
9/11 was indeed an inside job - the evidence is now totally conclusive - but there is no real evidence for these reptillian theories.
Icke should stop over-egging the pudding with stuff that most people not only disbelieve, but which also discredits the more sensible things he says.
9/11 was indeed an inside job - the evidence is now totally conclusive - but there is no real evidence for these reptillian theories.
Icke should stop over-egging the pudding with stuff that most people not only disbelieve, but which also discredits the more sensible things he says.
Posted by: James, Sheffield on 4:34pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote]
Icke should stop over-egging the pudding with stuff that most people not only disbelieve, but which also discredits the more sensible things he says.[/quote]
I agree. one fellow conspiracy theorist referred to the lizard idea of Icke's as "the turd in the punch bowl". He has got some interesting ideas and has obviously done a lot of research, but the Reptiles? Hmmm...
Icke should stop over-egging the pudding with stuff that most people not only disbelieve, but which also discredits the more sensible things he says.
I agree. one fellow conspiracy theorist referred to the lizard idea of Icke's as "the turd in the punch bowl". He has got some interesting ideas and has obviously done a lot of research, but the Reptiles? Hmmm...
Posted by: Robert Lindblad, Montreal on 4:02pm Tue 25 Mar 08
I've heard of his stuff
You know it's easy to write a book based on 100%
bullshit with a few visual and textual associations,
even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in.
OK I just checked for you on him.
It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa
and manipulation.
If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free!
Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit.
He's a good fake documentary bullshitter.
That is all.
I've heard of his stuff
You know it's easy to write a book based on 100%
bullshit with a few visual and textual associations,
even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in.
OK I just checked for you on him.
It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa
and manipulation.
If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free!
Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit.
He's a good fake documentary bullshitter.
That is all.
Posted by: Don, U.S.A. on 2:37pm Fri 9 May 08
The reptilians exist I have seen them, thought I was losing my mind. Brought friends back to see and they concurred,
They Shapeshift! they can manipulate vibrations as their brains developed that way for millions of years... reptiles live on the ground.. picking up vibrations. They are cruel and LOVE terror..
look at the symbolic "Dragon" that appears throuhout history in every culture and is especially associated with royalty! Count "DRACUla" son of the dragon.. took delight in the slow torture of his victims.. humanity is in for a big surprise!![bold]bold[/bold] [bold]bold[/bold]
The reptilians exist I have seen them, thought I was losing my mind. Brought friends back to see and they concurred,
They Shapeshift! they can manipulate vibrations as their brains developed that way for millions of years... reptiles live on the ground.. picking up vibrations. They are cruel and LOVE terror..
look at the symbolic "Dragon" that appears throuhout history in every culture and is especially associated with royalty! Count "DRACUla" son of the dragon.. took delight in the slow torture of his victims.. humanity is in for a big surprise!!
Posted by: Michael, Europe on 3:15pm Fri 9 May 08
David is undisputably correct about 95% of what he says.
1. 911 was a false flag attack. The evidence is overwhelming.
Read [bold]David Ray Griffin's book: 911 Predictions[/bold] .
Or [bold]watch "Loose change"[/bold] :
http://video.google.
com/videoplay?docid=
8510748876310097541&
q=loose+change&ei=hl
okSIrSDqSi2ALfscGfDA
&hl=en
2. the central banks, the federal reserve, Bank of England, the European bank are all PRIVATELY owned by a few individuals. This structure gives the owners a monopoly on money which makes them the controllers of these nations.
Read [bold]"Edward Griffins: Creature at Jekyll Island"[/bold] .
3. The EU and NAU are superstates that will turn into the Fourth Reich:
[bold]watch
End of Nations: EU Takeover and Lisbon Treaty[/bold]
http://video.google.
com/videoplay?docid=
-4291770489472554607
&hl=en
Like I said I agree with Icke about 98% of his message.
YOu could take the reptilian story as a
metaphor not as reality.
I have no opinion about the hologram stuff.
David is undisputably correct about 95% of what he says.
1. 911 was a false flag attack. The evidence is overwhelming.
Read
David Ray Griffin's book: 911 Predictions .
Or
watch "Loose change" :
http://video.google.
com/videoplay?docid=
8510748876310097541&
q=loose+change&ei=hl
okSIrSDqSi2ALfscGfDA
&hl=en
2. the central banks, the federal reserve, Bank of England, the European bank are all PRIVATELY owned by a few individuals. This structure gives the owners a monopoly on money which makes them the controllers of these nations.
Read
"Edward Griffins: Creature at Jekyll Island" .
3. The EU and NAU are superstates that will turn into the Fourth Reich:
watch
End of Nations: EU Takeover and Lisbon Treaty
http://video.google.
com/videoplay?docid=
-4291770489472554607
&hl=en
Like I said I agree with Icke about 98% of his message.
YOu could take the reptilian story as a
metaphor not as reality.
I have no opinion about the hologram stuff.
Posted by: Michael, Europe on 4:07pm Fri 9 May 08
In my opinion, David is undisputably correct about 98% of what he says.
If you can just put the hologram/reptilian stuff aside, then you see that David is absolutely telling the truth. To me its unfortunate that he talks about these two things since you can see from the comments that this can turn some people off to the rest of his message which is absolutely essential to have.
You can also just take the reptilian stuff as metaphor , the Rothschilds and Rockefellers of this world live in their own culture and have their own “values” TOTALLY different from the rest of us. Maybe David uses these two items to save his own life. By adding reptilians to his message his would be assassins let him speak on thinking that people won’t take him seriously.
Its also probably a joke to think that we are the only ones living in our galaxy. In the book “The Big Bang Never Happened” the author Eric Lerner goes about explaining that the universe is infinitely old and he notes that the galaxy sheets from our own nearby universe have taken 100s of billion of years to form. It is not unreasonable to think that other civilizations have formed during this enormous time period which are much much much older than our own, even parasitic ones.
That being said I am skeptic on the reptilians.
Here are a few of the things David says which are indisputable:
1. 911 was a false flag attack. The evidence is overwhelming.
Read David Ray Griffin's book: 911 Contradictions
http://www.amazon.co
m/11-Contradictions-
Letter-Congress-Pres
s/dp/1566567165/ref=
pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&
s=books&qid=12103431
11&sr=8-1
Or watch "Loose change final cut”
http://video.google.
com/videosearch?q=lo
ose+change&hl=en&sit
esearch=#
two of many WTC 7 videos (look at the other ones also).
http://au.youtube.co
m/watch?v=0YvrKfWkxd
w
http://au.youtube.co
m/watch?v=58h0LjdMry
0
2. the central banks, the federal reserve, Bank of England, the European bank are all PRIVATELY owned by a few individuals. This criminal scam gives the owners a monopoly on money which makes them the controllers of these nations. These handful of men are multi-trillionaires and have 80% of the world’s wealth.
Read "Edward Griffins: Creature at Jekyll Island"
http://www.amazon.co
m/Creature-Jekyll-Is
land-Federal-Reserve
/dp/0912986395/ref=p
d_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s
=books&qid=121034315
5&sr=1-1
Watch: Money Masters http://video.google.
com/videosearch?q=mo
ney+masters&hl=en&si
tesearch=#
3. The EU and NAU are superstates that will turn into the Fourth Reich:
Watch
End of Nations: EU Takeover and Lisbon Treaty
http://video.google.
com/videoplay?docid=
-4291770489472554607
&hl=en
4. All the following were false flag attacks:
US Maine
Lusitania sinking
Pearl Harbor
Gulf of Tonkin
Oklahoma City Bombing
1993 WTC bomb attacks
911
These have been responsible for 100s of millions of deaths and trillions of dollars to the war profiteers as well as increased power to those who really did these false flag attacks, evil people within the US government and military and secret services.
Read chapter 12 first
Wall Street and the rise of Hitler by Antony Sutton (free online)
http://reformed-theo
logy.org/html/books/
wall_street/
7/7 (by the British govt).
Don’t believe me or anyone one else.
But do yourself a favor and PLEASE do the research.
In my opinion, David is undisputably correct about 98% of what he says.
If you can just put the hologram/reptilian stuff aside, then you see that David is absolutely telling the truth. To me its unfortunate that he talks about these two things since you can see from the comments that this can turn some people off to the rest of his message which is absolutely essential to have.
You can also just take the reptilian stuff as metaphor , the Rothschilds and Rockefellers of this world live in their own culture and have their own “values” TOTALLY different from the rest of us. Maybe David uses these two items to save his own life. By adding reptilians to his message his would be assassins let him speak on thinking that people won’t take him seriously.
Its also probably a joke to think that we are the only ones living in our galaxy. In the book “The Big Bang Never Happened” the author Eric Lerner goes about explaining that the universe is infinitely old and he notes that the galaxy sheets from our own nearby universe have taken 100s of billion of years to form. It is not unreasonable to think that other civilizations have formed during this enormous time period which are much much much older than our own, even parasitic ones.
That being said I am skeptic on the reptilians.
Here are a few of the things David says which are indisputable:
1. 911 was a false flag attack. The evidence is overwhelming.
Read David Ray Griffin's book: 911 Contradictions
http://www.amazon.co
m/11-Contradictions-
Letter-Congress-Pres
s/dp/1566567165/ref=
pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&
s=books&qid=12103431
11&sr=8-1
Or watch "Loose change final cut”
http://video.google.
com/videosearch?q=lo
ose+change&hl=en&sit
esearch=#
two of many WTC 7 videos (look at the other ones also).
http://au.youtube.co
m/watch?v=0YvrKfWkxd
w
http://au.youtube.co
m/watch?v=58h0LjdMry
0
2. the central banks, the federal reserve, Bank of England, the European bank are all PRIVATELY owned by a few individuals. This criminal scam gives the owners a monopoly on money which makes them the controllers of these nations. These handful of men are multi-trillionaires and have 80% of the world’s wealth.
Read "Edward Griffins: Creature at Jekyll Island"
http://www.amazon.co
m/Creature-Jekyll-Is
land-Federal-Reserve
/dp/0912986395/ref=p
d_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s
=books&qid=121034315
5&sr=1-1
Watch: Money Masters http://video.google.
com/videosearch?q=mo
ney+masters&hl=en&si
tesearch=#
3. The EU and NAU are superstates that will turn into the Fourth Reich:
Watch
End of Nations: EU Takeover and Lisbon Treaty
http://video.google.
com/videoplay?docid=
-4291770489472554607
&hl=en
4. All the following were false flag attacks:
US Maine
Lusitania sinking
Pearl Harbor
Gulf of Tonkin
Oklahoma City Bombing
1993 WTC bomb attacks
911
These have been responsible for 100s of millions of deaths and trillions of dollars to the war profiteers as well as increased power to those who really did these false flag attacks, evil people within the US government and military and secret services.
Read chapter 12 first
Wall Street and the rise of Hitler by Antony Sutton (free online)
http://reformed-theo
logy.org/html/books/
wall_street/
7/7 (by the British govt).
Don’t believe me or anyone one else.
But do yourself a favor and PLEASE do the research.
Posted by: alan, ny on 4:40pm Fri 9 May 08
On the contrary, I agree COMPLETELY with what Icke says. No one else will ever tell you the truth. Not priests, or rabbis or imams - they know that religion is a scam - deliberately set to make us believe we're pieces of crap on the ground! But all these clerics are in the lying business - they make a living out of it!
On the contrary, I agree COMPLETELY with what Icke says. No one else will ever tell you the truth. Not priests, or rabbis or imams - they know that religion is a scam - deliberately set to make us believe we're pieces of crap on the ground! But all these clerics are in the lying business - they make a living out of it!
Posted by: ptor spricenieks, earth on 5:35pm Fri 9 May 08
[quote][bold]Robert Lindblad[/bold] wrote:
I've heard of his stuff
You know it's easy to write a book based on 100%
bullshit with a few visual and textual associations,
even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in.
OK I just checked for you on him.
It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa
and manipulation.
If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free!
Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit.
He's a good fake documentary bullshitter.
That is all.
[/quote] Hey Robert,
Maybe you can show me how to publish 100,000 copies and distribute MY new glossy coffeetable book for free. Then would you believe ME?
Did they kick you out of kindergarten for calling bullshit on the word/picture association your teacher used on you and the books they paid for?
You are a **** fake commentary bullshitter.
Robert Lindblad wrote:
I've heard of his stuff
You know it's easy to write a book based on 100%
bullshit with a few visual and textual associations,
even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in.
OK I just checked for you on him.
It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa
and manipulation.
If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free!
Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit.
He's a good fake documentary bullshitter.
That is all.
Hey Robert,
Maybe you can show me how to publish 100,000 copies and distribute MY new glossy coffeetable book for free. Then would you believe ME?
Did they kick you out of kindergarten for calling bullshit on the word/picture association your teacher used on you and the books they paid for?
You are a **** fake commentary bullshitter.
Posted by: sooty2, japan on 6:35pm Fri 9 May 08
The writer of this article has quoted David Icke using the word 'hologram' 6 times in 3 different sentences, and in such a way that it gives the impression that only a "controversial conspiracy theorist" like D.I would say such 'nonsense'. But the idea of a holographic universe was not dreamed up by David Icke. It was pioneered by 2 of the world's most eminent thinkers, physicist David Bohm, a former protege of Einstein, and the quantum physicist Karl Pribram. The holographic universe (or the 'illusion' as the mystics say) can explain a lot of phenomena that traditional science can't, such as this: (give it 20 secs)
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=QtQ0wOllK
EY
At the quantum level everything is blinking in and out of existence all the time so why should the idea of a holographic universe be so strange. A long time ago flat-earthers used to laugh at people who said the earth was round.
'The Holographic Universe' by Michael Talbot (highly recommended)
http://www.amazon.co
m/Holographic-Univer
se-Michael-Talbot/dp
/0060922583
The writer of this article has quoted David Icke using the word 'hologram' 6 times in 3 different sentences, and in such a way that it gives the impression that only a "controversial conspiracy theorist" like D.I would say such 'nonsense'. But the idea of a holographic universe was not dreamed up by David Icke. It was pioneered by 2 of the world's most eminent thinkers, physicist David Bohm, a former protege of Einstein, and the quantum physicist Karl Pribram. The holographic universe (or the 'illusion' as the mystics say) can explain a lot of phenomena that traditional science can't, such as this: (give it 20 secs)
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=QtQ0wOllK
EY
At the quantum level everything is blinking in and out of existence all the time so why should the idea of a holographic universe be so strange. A long time ago flat-earthers used to laugh at people who said the earth was round.
'The Holographic Universe' by Michael Talbot (highly recommended)
http://www.amazon.co
m/Holographic-Univer
se-Michael-Talbot/dp
/0060922583
Posted by: Slick, UK on 6:47pm Fri 9 May 08
David Icke is an absolute legend and the only guy out there with balls enough to say what is really happening.
Sure, the reptillian thing is hard to swallow and is too easily dismissed on the basis it sounds like sci-fi.But for god sake guys, are we really that ignorant that we think we know everything there is to know. Of course theres gonna be things that at our level of evolution canot be explained.
To understand the shapeshifting reptillian thing one needs to understand that reality is just an ocean of vibrating frequencies, and our brain is the lens which decodes the info into something we can make sense of. Quantum physics supports this. The reptillians are able to control the frequency of their vibrations and so are able to control their appearance.
But the most important message that david delivers is that "infinite love is the only truth and everything else is an illusion" and when we all realise this, their evil agenda will crumble.
David Icke is an absolute legend and the only guy out there with balls enough to say what is really happening.
Sure, the reptillian thing is hard to swallow and is too easily dismissed on the basis it sounds like sci-fi.But for god sake guys, are we really that ignorant that we think we know everything there is to know. Of course theres gonna be things that at our level of evolution canot be explained.
To understand the shapeshifting reptillian thing one needs to understand that reality is just an ocean of vibrating frequencies, and our brain is the lens which decodes the info into something we can make sense of. Quantum physics supports this. The reptillians are able to control the frequency of their vibrations and so are able to control their appearance.
But the most important message that david delivers is that "infinite love is the only truth and everything else is an illusion" and when we all realise this, their evil agenda will crumble.
Posted by: Helio, USA on 8:00pm Fri 9 May 08
It is unfortunate but David is correct on most of his ideas. A detail or two may be out of place. But the main thought is correct.
It is unfortunate but David is correct on most of his ideas. A detail or two may be out of place. But the main thought is correct.
Posted by: paul, London on 8:17pm Fri 9 May 08
Mr icke has balls of steal, love what his doing. His is 100% individual (not a sheep). And is great at pushing people to ask some serious questions. Challenge fear and the truth shines through.(clear light) black and white
Mr icke has balls of steal, love what his doing. His is 100% individual (not a sheep). And is great at pushing people to ask some serious questions. Challenge fear and the truth shines through.(clear light) black and white
Posted by: robert, toronto on 8:18pm Fri 9 May 08
I have been reading and listening to david Icke and other good new world reseachers for years.
and what I am finding is that all the research they do is identical when it comes to the illuminati and the banking cartels.
the only difference is in their view of reality ie icke says holographic and the spaceman 640 radio says this world on earth is an illusion provided by satan/or cain
but it doesnt matter if we are to be adults and research and share the information it doesnt matter.. we can change this illusion/reality/ matrix its up to us.
together we stand divived we fall..
I have been reading and listening to david Icke and other good new world reseachers for years.
and what I am finding is that all the research they do is identical when it comes to the illuminati and the banking cartels.
the only difference is in their view of reality ie icke says holographic and the spaceman 640 radio says this world on earth is an illusion provided by satan/or cain
but it doesnt matter if we are to be adults and research and share the information it doesnt matter.. we can change this illusion/reality/ matrix its up to us.
together we stand divived we fall..
Posted by: Cafe beelzebub, Earth on 8:38pm Fri 9 May 08
that was nearly.... very very nearly a whole article about david icke without a mention of the lizards... ooooohhhh shucks, they went and blew it with the last line! dam. I think he's moving into the period of self evident now... political parties a complete sham? 9/11 inside job? do they intend to create a one world dictatorship? errr yes.
that was nearly.... very very nearly a whole article about david icke without a mention of the lizards... ooooohhhh shucks, they went and blew it with the last line! dam. I think he's moving into the period of self evident now... political parties a complete sham? 9/11 inside job? do they intend to create a one world dictatorship? errr yes.
Posted by: tom, liverpool on 9:27pm Fri 9 May 08
David has been raising awareness of the most important issues for nearly 20 years.If you cant see the truth by now maybe you will never waken up.
David has been raising awareness of the most important issues for nearly 20 years.If you cant see the truth by now maybe you will never waken up.
Posted by: ersoy, clapham on 10:34pm Fri 9 May 08
[quote][bold]Robert Lindblad[/bold] wrote:
I\'ve heard of his stuff You know it\'s easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all. [/quote] [italic]italic[/italic] hmm so he's not allowed to earn a living? if money was his goal wouldn't he have stayed with the beeb, surely that would have been far more lucrative
Robert Lindblad wrote:
I\'ve heard of his stuff You know it\'s easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.
hmm so he's not allowed to earn a living? if money was his goal wouldn't he have stayed with the beeb, surely that would have been far more lucrative
Posted by: jesusdwarka, southwest usa on 10:47pm Fri 9 May 08
[bold]bold[/bold] I have been reading david icke for the past10 years or so....I have been watching the ever increasing Illuminati agend for the past 35....the reptillians/ other worldly entities was a stretch, however most probably accurate...I[bold]bold[/bold] [italic]italic[/italic] [quote]quote[/quote] can't thank david enough for what he is doing....next to Osho, david is the best out there....
I have been reading david icke for the past10 years or so....I have been watching the ever increasing Illuminati agend for the past 35....the reptillians/ other worldly entities was a stretch, however most probably accurate...I
quote
can't thank david enough for what he is doing....next to Osho, david is the best out there....
Posted by: Slam, Tony on 10:51pm Fri 9 May 08
[quote][bold]Robert Lindblad[/bold] wrote:
I\\\\\\\'ve heard of his stuff
You know it\\\\\\\'s easy to write a book based on 100%
bullshit with a few visual and textual associations,
even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in.
OK I just checked for you on him.
It is 100% bullshit... it\\\\\\\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa
and manipulation.
If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free!
Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit.
He\\\\\\\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter.
That is all.
[/quote] God you read his stuff quick! Dickhead. Yawn...
Robert Lindblad wrote:
I\\\\'ve heard of his stuff
You know it\\\\'s easy to write a book based on 100%
bullshit with a few visual and textual associations,
even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in.
OK I just checked for you on him.
It is 100% bullshit... it\\\\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa
and manipulation.
If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free!
Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit.
He\\\\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter.
That is all.
God you read his stuff quick! Dickhead. Yawn...
Posted by: Matthew, Scotland on 12:11am Sat 10 May 08
Mr Icke's talks about us all being holograms going on the solient fact that the article has described can be proven evident when taking "Quantum Mechanics" in to consideration. To put things simply, the way we dress, comb our hair etc is all respective to how we feel on the inside and that is the outward inner/ outer holographic projection. In regards to the reptilians, well, if any of you people who question this have in actual fact, worked in a call centre and seen them for real before even being aware of Icke's work then, perhaps you all need to hand in the application forms for such companies as Sky Television. Mr Ickes occupation is in being a journalist and selling the truth in his books to make a living. Nothing wrong with that at all. He does it well and I support his views and my own views from personal experience.
Mr Icke's talks about us all being holograms going on the solient fact that the article has described can be proven evident when taking "Quantum Mechanics" in to consideration. To put things simply, the way we dress, comb our hair etc is all respective to how we feel on the inside and that is the outward inner/ outer holographic projection. In regards to the reptilians, well, if any of you people who question this have in actual fact, worked in a call centre and seen them for real before even being aware of Icke's work then, perhaps you all need to hand in the application forms for such companies as Sky Television. Mr Ickes occupation is in being a journalist and selling the truth in his books to make a living. Nothing wrong with that at all. He does it well and I support his views and my own views from personal experience.
Posted by: Nicky, London on 12:15am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]Robert Lindblad[/bold] wrote:
I\'ve heard of his stuff You know it\'s easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all. [/quote] Robert Lindblad. I wonder if you have ever actually bothered to read any of David Icke's books? I shouldn't think so judging by your ignorant comment. David Icke is becoming more popular and now gives sell out talks.
All the comments in support of David here are intelligent and give ample information for you to check out for yourself that proves what Icke is saying. I also notice that those who dismiss him as a kook or as a 'Conspiracy Theorist', refuse to debate any of the issues that he disgusses or make any attempt to back up their hollow insults with any real substance. I can say after reading six or so of his books that what he says makes perfect sense to me. You would have to be an idiot not to be able to see how insane the world is. Perhaps it is you that is a bullshitter. Also, could you tell me how it is possible to publish so much information for free and still eat? I'd love to know.
Robert Lindblad wrote:
I\'ve heard of his stuff You know it\'s easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.
Robert Lindblad. I wonder if you have ever actually bothered to read any of David Icke's books? I shouldn't think so judging by your ignorant comment. David Icke is becoming more popular and now gives sell out talks.
All the comments in support of David here are intelligent and give ample information for you to check out for yourself that proves what Icke is saying. I also notice that those who dismiss him as a kook or as a 'Conspiracy Theorist', refuse to debate any of the issues that he disgusses or make any attempt to back up their hollow insults with any real substance. I can say after reading six or so of his books that what he says makes perfect sense to me. You would have to be an idiot not to be able to see how insane the world is. Perhaps it is you that is a bullshitter. Also, could you tell me how it is possible to publish so much information for free and still eat? I'd love to know.
Posted by: alan page on 12:38am Sat 10 May 08
I think it's Baudrillaud who has everything down as a media construct, even our thought processes and intimate behaviour are a construct imposed on us by external influences.
There is no escape, as that has all been added into the equation as well.
"Welcome to the Machine.
What did you dream?
It's alright we told you what to dream!!"
I think it's Baudrillaud who has everything down as a media construct, even our thought processes and intimate behaviour are a construct imposed on us by external influences.
There is no escape, as that has all been added into the equation as well.
"Welcome to the Machine.
What did you dream?
It's alright we told you what to dream!!"
Posted by: Phil, Brussels on 12:40am Sat 10 May 08
Ask a quantum physicist and they will tell you that anything in this universe is possible - and I mean anything. In that context the idea of shapeshifting reptoids is actually pretty ordinary.
Scientists have also found that subatomic particles only exist when an observer is present and that certain particles switch DIMENSIONS under certain circumstances. Don't just take Davids' word for it.
Ask a quantum physicist and they will tell you that anything in this universe is possible - and I mean anything. In that context the idea of shapeshifting reptoids is actually pretty ordinary.
Scientists have also found that subatomic particles only exist when an observer is present and that certain particles switch DIMENSIONS under certain circumstances. Don't just take Davids' word for it.
Posted by: philip travers, Tyringham. N.S.W. 2453 on 8:06am Sat 10 May 08
When I am blogging Australian Blogs I regularly mention DavidIcke.com.For the simple reason he is cleared headed about the outcome of some matters that end up as story.The Lizard thing,I just dont know.Any one who says Lizards are cruel,I think,has never lived in a country like Australia.Where species are endangered.There is nothing like being inspired by the variety of.The cutest of them I think,are drop tail lizards.And that is that.I doubt anyone could be frightened of them,accept squashing them,or inadvertently making them drop their tails.Unlike the CIA,M16,NSA, and a host of other type humans,with nothing especially to do!Accept give us the nearest matters to our tails!And if that isnt enough,I am sure they will try to provide other services! As I write about our A.S.I.O. as bludgers,they know it is simply jealousy on my part, of how much they are paid,and, the fact,even these thoughts ,arent all my own.And it aint mental condition,orimaginat
ionnor science idiomatics,but...Bas
tardry.Then again they could agree with me entirely,accept for matters money.That isnt a shot at David though,arthritis when young,is very disturbing![italic]italic[/italic]
When I am blogging Australian Blogs I regularly mention DavidIcke.com.For the simple reason he is cleared headed about the outcome of some matters that end up as story.The Lizard thing,I just dont know.Any one who says Lizards are cruel,I think,has never lived in a country like Australia.Where species are endangered.There is nothing like being inspired by the variety of.The cutest of them I think,are drop tail lizards.And that is that.I doubt anyone could be frightened of them,accept squashing them,or inadvertently making them drop their tails.Unlike the CIA,M16,NSA, and a host of other type humans,with nothing especially to do!Accept give us the nearest matters to our tails!And if that isnt enough,I am sure they will try to provide other services! As I write about our A.S.I.O. as bludgers,they know it is simply jealousy on my part, of how much they are paid,and, the fact,even these thoughts ,arent all my own.And it aint mental condition,orimaginat
ionnor science idiomatics,but...Bas
tardry.Then again they could agree with me entirely,accept for matters money.That isnt a shot at David though,arthritis when young,is very disturbing!
Posted by: Kenner, california on 8:22am Sat 10 May 08
I appreciate reading support for David Icke....I have read all his books and seen him speak for over 15 hours in person, not to mention countless videos online.
To those of you who took precious moments out of your very short and priceless life to comment and express on your own ignorance well... I forgive you and I love you. But for your information David doesn't care (at all) about what you think or believe. He only wants his version of our shared reality to be available for awakening souls. So if you don't like him, then don't read or watch him. It is not like he is dominating the airwaves or in the newspaper. hint, hint
PS Research Credo Mutwa for reptillian information and listen to Bill Hicks to educate yourself....All there is, is energy.
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is nearly energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, LIFE IS ONLY A DREAM, and we are all the imagination of ourselves." AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!
I appreciate reading support for David Icke....I have read all his books and seen him speak for over 15 hours in person, not to mention countless videos online.
To those of you who took precious moments out of your very short and priceless life to comment and express on your own ignorance well... I forgive you and I love you. But for your information David doesn't care (at all) about what you think or believe. He only wants his version of our shared reality to be available for awakening souls. So if you don't like him, then don't read or watch him. It is not like he is dominating the airwaves or in the newspaper. hint, hint
PS Research Credo Mutwa for reptillian information and listen to Bill Hicks to educate yourself....All there is, is energy.
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is nearly energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, LIFE IS ONLY A DREAM, and we are all the imagination of ourselves." AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!
Posted by: Anne, Asia on 9:02am Sat 10 May 08
A lot of things David Icke says are accurate. For an overview of current events and how these have been manipulated over the last century please visit
www.trueworldhistory
.info
A storehouse of informative documentaries.
A lot of things David Icke says are accurate. For an overview of current events and how these have been manipulated over the last century please visit
www.trueworldhistory
.info
A storehouse of informative documentaries.
Posted by: Anne, Asia on 9:05am Sat 10 May 08
A lot of things David Icke says are accurate. For an overview of current events and how these have been manipulated over the last century please visit
www.trueworldhistory
.info
A storehouse of informative documentaries.
A lot of things David Icke says are accurate. For an overview of current events and how these have been manipulated over the last century please visit
www.trueworldhistory
.info
A storehouse of informative documentaries.
Posted by: jimbo, york on 12:33pm Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]Stuart[/bold] wrote:
So is he still a member of the Green party? If so that speaks volumes. [/quote] david is no longer a member of the green or any other party and has not been for a considerable time the clue is in the article"politicl [bold][bold]bold[/bold] [quote]quote[/quote] [/bold] partys are a sham"
Stuart wrote:
So is he still a member of the Green party? If so that speaks volumes.
david is no longer a member of the green or any other party and has not been for a considerable time the clue is in the article"politicl
quote
partys are a sham"
Posted by: Jack, Oxford on 9:10pm Sat 10 May 08
Has Mr Icke been sectioned recently?
Didn't he spend some time in a nut house?
Could his ideas/views be viewed as delusions?
Note that the majority of people supporting his views are US based, apeaks volumes.
Has Mr Icke been sectioned recently?
Didn't he spend some time in a nut house?
Could his ideas/views be viewed as delusions?
Note that the majority of people supporting his views are US based, apeaks volumes.
Posted by: paul, london on 10:59pm Sat 10 May 08
Mr Oxford (jack) have you been sectioned recenlty, i think the you should check your self in for believing all the headline bullshit you read while eating your breakfast , Wake up mate because believe it or not, david is not the one that is nuts, its you.
Mr Oxford (jack) have you been sectioned recenlty, i think the you should check your self in for believing all the headline bullshit you read while eating your breakfast , Wake up mate because believe it or not, david is not the one that is nuts, its you.
Posted by: Wibble flibble, The Planet Zanussi on 11:07pm Sat 10 May 08
He was a crap goal keeper at Coventry, I wonder if that was the fault of shape shifting reptilian aliens? Lets face it the bloke is completely hatstand, one too many footballs in the face I reckon.
He was a crap goal keeper at Coventry, I wonder if that was the fault of shape shifting reptilian aliens? Lets face it the bloke is completely hatstand, one too many footballs in the face I reckon.
Posted by: Stan on 1:30am Sun 11 May 08
David Icke? I'm still in two minds about this man. Why does he look the spitting image of John Davison Rothchilds, they could be twins. Icke wont answer searching quetions of his linage.
David Icke? I'm still in two minds about this man. Why does he look the spitting image of John Davison Rothchilds, they could be twins. Icke wont answer searching quetions of his linage.
Posted by: nell, ny on 4:39am Sun 11 May 08
David Icke is correct. But he's NOT the only one that has said it- this is Ancient Knowledge, The ANcient Egyptians knew it, and so did/do the American Indians and the Pacific Peaoples.
This whole "reality" is an illusion of the Mind. We all create it, as Social Consciousness. An example is that in previous generations all the Archeologists/scient
ists/astronomers and comptemporaries, believed a certain way- and the history was what they thought. Then the young, maverick professionals in all fields started questiioning everything, and now everything that is found worldwide, the artifacts and such, are according to that new belief.
All the problems, and troubles, and world events can be changed. Prayed away, Chanted away, danced away (that's what the original Ghost Dance was all about)with the help of The Great Mind -- if we all decided to co-operate -joined hands and did it.
David Icke is correct. But he's NOT the only one that has said it- this is Ancient Knowledge, The ANcient Egyptians knew it, and so did/do the American Indians and the Pacific Peaoples.
This whole "reality" is an illusion of the Mind. We all create it, as Social Consciousness. An example is that in previous generations all the Archeologists/scient
ists/astronomers and comptemporaries, believed a certain way- and the history was what they thought. Then the young, maverick professionals in all fields started questiioning everything, and now everything that is found worldwide, the artifacts and such, are according to that new belief.
All the problems, and troubles, and world events can be changed. Prayed away, Chanted away, danced away (that's what the original Ghost Dance was all about)with the help of The Great Mind -- if we all decided to co-operate -joined hands and did it.
Posted by: nell, ny on 4:55am Sun 11 May 08
I also have this theory that the cruelty that the "lizzies" visit upon us, is the exact same cruelty we do with animals. YO! Anybody been in a slaughter-house lately? One has got to be heartless and indifferent to suffering in there. We kill and eat the young of other species,and without mercy or pity.So, is it done to ours.
Anybody gone hunting for the sport? Not, necessity, for hunger,but for sport? Same thing.
We are ones after all that have the ability to think clearly, and reason.
When we stop our cruelty to others, and hunt only for necessity, and communicate this to the Soul of the lower animals, then the cruetly toward us will cease.
Everything is a mirror to us.
I also have this theory that the cruelty that the "lizzies" visit upon us, is the exact same cruelty we do with animals. YO! Anybody been in a slaughter-house lately? One has got to be heartless and indifferent to suffering in there. We kill and eat the young of other species,and without mercy or pity.So, is it done to ours.
Anybody gone hunting for the sport? Not, necessity, for hunger,but for sport? Same thing.
We are ones after all that have the ability to think clearly, and reason.
When we stop our cruelty to others, and hunt only for necessity, and communicate this to the Soul of the lower animals, then the cruetly toward us will cease.
Everything is a mirror to us.
Posted by: Steevin Harper, Melbourne Australia on 5:12am Sun 11 May 08
[quote][bold]ptor spricenieks[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Robert Lindblad[/bold] wrote: I've heard of his stuff You know it's easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He's a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all. [/quote] Hey Robert, Maybe you can show me how to publish 100,000 copies and distribute MY new glossy coffeetable book for free. Then would you believe ME? Did they kick you out of kindergarten for calling bullshit on the word/picture association your teacher used on you and the books they paid for? You are a **** fake commentary bullshitter.[/quote] Gosh Robert, you have only heard of the stuff he writes about so your now qualified to comment.
I began reading the information he writes
about 14 year's ago.
Got more than I expected over the year's ahead, much more than you could ever imagine.
All thank's to the
INFORMATION pal.
ptor spricenieks wrote:
Robert Lindblad wrote: I've heard of his stuff You know it's easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He's a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.
Hey Robert, Maybe you can show me how to publish 100,000 copies and distribute MY new glossy coffeetable book for free. Then would you believe ME? Did they kick you out of kindergarten for calling bullshit on the word/picture association your teacher used on you and the books they paid for? You are a **** fake commentary bullshitter.
Gosh Robert, you have only heard of the stuff he writes about so your now qualified to comment.
I began reading the information he writes
about 14 year's ago.
Got more than I expected over the year's ahead, much more than you could ever imagine.
All thank's to the
INFORMATION pal.
Posted by: david, London on 10:59am Sun 11 May 08
David Icke is one of many people trying to get the truth out. People are starting to take this seriously as our civil liberties are being torn from us. Look around you, you cannot even protest in Parliament Square anymore.
The Orwellian state is upon us and its the people who work for these organisations that hold the infrastructure together.
Traffic wardens, police, community support officers, CCTV operators. You are all complicit to the Nazi-esque state we live in.
David Icke is one of many people trying to get the truth out. People are starting to take this seriously as our civil liberties are being torn from us. Look around you, you cannot even protest in Parliament Square anymore.
The Orwellian state is upon us and its the people who work for these organisations that hold the infrastructure together.
Traffic wardens, police, community support officers, CCTV operators. You are all complicit to the Nazi-esque state we live in.
Posted by: Ian Sternberg, Harwell on 4:24pm Sun 11 May 08
I do hope that all the People Who have put contributions above about International Bankers/The Illuminati/the Rothschilds etc are not using those terms as codewords to refer to members of the Jewish Community - We should all be treating this kind of disgusting
" Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion "
Anti-Semitism with the contempt that it deserves .
There is no need for any kind of
" Conspiracy Theory " to explain the world's problems of economic inequality , war & racism and these types of ludricous
" explanations " can only hinder Us in Our struggles to unite and fight to achieve a better world for Everybody .
I do hope that all the People Who have put contributions above about International Bankers/The Illuminati/the Rothschilds etc are not using those terms as codewords to refer to members of the Jewish Community - We should all be treating this kind of disgusting
" Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion "
Anti-Semitism with the contempt that it deserves .
There is no need for any kind of
" Conspiracy Theory " to explain the world's problems of economic inequality , war & racism and these types of ludricous
" explanations " can only hinder Us in Our struggles to unite and fight to achieve a better world for Everybody .
Posted by: Rob Pettersen, London on 10:32pm Sun 11 May 08
Google "Common Purpose". This UK registered charity grooms weak-willed people to take key positions in key government organisations and NGOs with the sole purpose of attacking and undermining society from within in readiness for EU rule and the fascist global police state that will follow. It is no coincidence that all major areas of society - the NHS, education, police, BBC, local government, etc. - have been eroded and are stealthily being decimated by Common Purpose infiltrators, using political correctness, lies, smears and intimidation as their main weapons. Much of the hundreds of billions of pounds of taxpayers money lavished on these public services have instead disappeared into a black hole marked '1984' and dispensed on all of the various surveillance apparatus being erected to control us. That's right, the taxes we pay are the source of our own future imprisonment, when each and every one of us will be microchipped and linked to a central computer. ID cards and the DNA database are but stepping stones to what is to come. I didn't need to read www.davidicke.com to learn all of that, but thank God there are people like David around to awaken the slumbering masses glued to their sick computer games and crass celebrity fodder.
Google "Common Purpose". This UK registered charity grooms weak-willed people to take key positions in key government organisations and NGOs with the sole purpose of attacking and undermining society from within in readiness for EU rule and the fascist global police state that will follow. It is no coincidence that all major areas of society - the NHS, education, police, BBC, local government, etc. - have been eroded and are stealthily being decimated by Common Purpose infiltrators, using political correctness, lies, smears and intimidation as their main weapons. Much of the hundreds of billions of pounds of taxpayers money lavished on these public services have instead disappeared into a black hole marked '1984' and dispensed on all of the various surveillance apparatus being erected to control us. That's right, the taxes we pay are the source of our own future imprisonment, when each and every one of us will be microchipped and linked to a central computer. ID cards and the DNA database are but stepping stones to what is to come. I didn't need to read www.davidicke.com to learn all of that, but thank God there are people like David around to awaken the slumbering masses glued to their sick computer games and crass celebrity fodder.
Posted by: earthakit on 10:48pm Sun 11 May 08
Nobody has mentioned the common people that happen to be Jews. As Icke has said, they're just as fooled as everybody else. As to the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion- some people have obviously not read them, because the points in the Protocls - WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM- have been implimented little by little - and one by one.
And YES, there is a CONSPIRACY - AGAINST the common, every day people of the world, which is why there is all the economic, political prolems - and racial divisiveness, and invention of religions. When you're told there are no conspiracies, and made to look like a fool for believing there is, check out JUST who is telling you that - the general news media- or the government (3 Branches) or military, the 3 which are hand-in-glove together? All 3 working together?
You have to use your logic, look around and connect the dots, across the Board.
It really is time to stop being embarrassed that people should say, you believe in Conspiracies, and stop letting skeptics and shills get away with making one look like fools. Time to talk back FORCEFULLY. We have much to lose otherwise.
Thank God there are brave pioneers like Icke who care for us enough to keep on fighting for us- to help us.
Nobody has mentioned the common people that happen to be Jews. As Icke has said, they're just as fooled as everybody else. As to the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion- some people have obviously not read them, because the points in the Protocls - WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM- have been implimented little by little - and one by one.
And YES, there is a CONSPIRACY - AGAINST the common, every day people of the world, which is why there is all the economic, political prolems - and racial divisiveness, and invention of religions. When you're told there are no conspiracies, and made to look like a fool for believing there is, check out JUST who is telling you that - the general news media- or the government (3 Branches) or military, the 3 which are hand-in-glove together? All 3 working together?
You have to use your logic, look around and connect the dots, across the Board.
It really is time to stop being embarrassed that people should say, you believe in Conspiracies, and stop letting skeptics and shills get away with making one look like fools. Time to talk back FORCEFULLY. We have much to lose otherwise.
Thank God there are brave pioneers like Icke who care for us enough to keep on fighting for us- to help us.
Posted by: earthakit on 10:48pm Sun 11 May 08
Nobody has mentioned the common people that happen to be Jews. As Icke has said, they're just as fooled as everybody else. As to the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion- some people have obviously not read them, because the points in the Protocls - WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM- have been implimented little by little - and one by one.
And YES, there is a CONSPIRACY - AGAINST the common, every day people of the world, which is why there is all the economic, political prolems - and racial divisiveness, and invention of religions. When you're told there are no conspiracies, and made to look like a fool for believing there is, check out JUST who is telling you that - the general news media- or the government (3 Branches) or military, the 3 which are hand-in-glove together? All 3 working together?
You have to use your logic, look around and connect the dots, across the Board.
It really is time to stop being embarrassed that people should say, you believe in Conspiracies, and stop letting skeptics and shills get away with making one look like fools. Time to talk back FORCEFULLY. We have much to lose otherwise.
Thank God there are brave pioneers like Icke who care for us enough to keep on fighting for us- to help us.
Nobody has mentioned the common people that happen to be Jews. As Icke has said, they're just as fooled as everybody else. As to the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion- some people have obviously not read them, because the points in the Protocls - WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM- have been implimented little by little - and one by one.
And YES, there is a CONSPIRACY - AGAINST the common, every day people of the world, which is why there is all the economic, political prolems - and racial divisiveness, and invention of religions. When you're told there are no conspiracies, and made to look like a fool for believing there is, check out JUST who is telling you that - the general news media- or the government (3 Branches) or military, the 3 which are hand-in-glove together? All 3 working together?
You have to use your logic, look around and connect the dots, across the Board.
It really is time to stop being embarrassed that people should say, you believe in Conspiracies, and stop letting skeptics and shills get away with making one look like fools. Time to talk back FORCEFULLY. We have much to lose otherwise.
Thank God there are brave pioneers like Icke who care for us enough to keep on fighting for us- to help us.
Posted by: nell, ny on 12:08am Mon 12 May 08
It bothers me about Conspiracies.
How can one explain the S& L Scandal tht we the people were left with the high debt for the next 2 generations. Was that an accident?
And the Enron Debt? Was that an accident?
And factories closing, and production going overseas- so tht today, there is growing joblessness? Is that an accident?
And our Original Patents being handed to Communist China, since the 1980s. And the Chinese being given Preferred Status in Trade, there's no connection to anything.
Then there's the sudden outbreak of strange diseases since the 1980s, so many at once, like never before in history.
And other things cropping up.
No, folks there's nothing to wonder at here, no Conspiracies, at all.
It bothers me about Conspiracies.
How can one explain the S& L Scandal tht we the people were left with the high debt for the next 2 generations. Was that an accident?
And the Enron Debt? Was that an accident?
And factories closing, and production going overseas- so tht today, there is growing joblessness? Is that an accident?
And our Original Patents being handed to Communist China, since the 1980s. And the Chinese being given Preferred Status in Trade, there's no connection to anything.
Then there's the sudden outbreak of strange diseases since the 1980s, so many at once, like never before in history.
And other things cropping up.
No, folks there's nothing to wonder at here, no Conspiracies, at all.
Posted by: Keeft, UK on 1:51am Mon 12 May 08
Conspiracy is a bad word these days. Conjures up nutters, which most people think David Icke is, and thats why hes managed to remain unscathed.. but hes had ill health and business disasters. I`m a realist. I want facts. Trouble is my U.S. friends just wont see it my way 100%. They believe what they are told. I was very young when I realised how easy it is to corrupt. Anything can be and likely is.Of course the money men are the controllers. Nothing can be done without backing.. Hitler had it. All major events are `iffy`.Just think about what we`ve seen on tv.. its a propaganda machine. 9/11 produced some spectacular shots.. not cgi as I heard mentioned long after. Misinformation runs both ways, but many people are blind to the obvious. Yes, 50 years plus.The UK is under attack by the EEC and no one in power seems to want to resist. Why not. We were never Europe.
A treaty written by a disgraced ex president, is now signed by Blair,Brown, who is unelected.We dont know details, we arent allowed to vote on it. Why not?
Everything we know about space is theory.
We havent got very far.Our brains interpret what we see and perception can be fooled.Yes, open mind.
Religion.. I was amazed how powerful world wide. Based on stories. Myths? We dont/cant know. Faith, fine, but dont bend the good words to use for war. Population control. What else is war good for. Theres a song in there somewhere.
Er..didnt we evolve from reptiles? Or did we. Ha. I just want the facts m`am.
Conspiracy is a bad word these days. Conjures up nutters, which most people think David Icke is, and thats why hes managed to remain unscathed.. but hes had ill health and business disasters. I`m a realist. I want facts. Trouble is my U.S. friends just wont see it my way 100%. They believe what they are told. I was very young when I realised how easy it is to corrupt. Anything can be and likely is.Of course the money men are the controllers. Nothing can be done without backing.. Hitler had it. All major events are `iffy`.Just think about what we`ve seen on tv.. its a propaganda machine. 9/11 produced some spectacular shots.. not cgi as I heard mentioned long after. Misinformation runs both ways, but many people are blind to the obvious. Yes, 50 years plus.The UK is under attack by the EEC and no one in power seems to want to resist. Why not. We were never Europe.
A treaty written by a disgraced ex president, is now signed by Blair,Brown, who is unelected.We dont know details, we arent allowed to vote on it. Why not?
Everything we know about space is theory.
We havent got very far.Our brains interpret what we see and perception can be fooled.Yes, open mind.
Religion.. I was amazed how powerful world wide. Based on stories. Myths? We dont/cant know. Faith, fine, but dont bend the good words to use for war. Population control. What else is war good for. Theres a song in there somewhere.
Er..didnt we evolve from reptiles? Or did we. Ha. I just want the facts m`am.
Posted by: Jeff Amigon, Accra. Ghana. West Africa on 1:31pm Mon 12 May 08
I came accross Icke's Biggest Secret three years ago and I was amazed by what he wrote. As a student of history, I've seen that he has placed all issues in historical context and anyone who ignores what he writes does so at his own peril. David has a very good insight into history and I respect him for that. Please always read his boks with an open mind and you will get to know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
I came accross Icke's Biggest Secret three years ago and I was amazed by what he wrote. As a student of history, I've seen that he has placed all issues in historical context and anyone who ignores what he writes does so at his own peril. David has a very good insight into history and I respect him for that. Please always read his boks with an open mind and you will get to know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
Posted by: Ian Sternberg, Harwell on 1:53pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]earthakit[/bold] wrote:
Nobody has mentioned the common people that happen to be Jews. As Icke has said, they\\\'re just as fooled as everybody else. As to the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion- some people have obviously not read them, because the points in the Protocls - WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM- have been implimented little by little - and one by one. And YES, there is a CONSPIRACY - AGAINST the common, every day people of the world, which is why there is all the economic, political prolems - and racial divisiveness, and invention of religions. When you\\\'re told there are no conspiracies, and made to look like a fool for believing there is, check out JUST who is telling you that - the general news media- or the government (3 Branches) or military, the 3 which are hand-in-glove together? All 3 working together? You have to use your logic, look around and connect the dots, across the Board. It really is time to stop being embarrassed that people should say, you believe in Conspiracies, and stop letting skeptics and shills get away with making one look like fools. Time to talk back FORCEFULLY. We have much to lose otherwise. Thank God there are brave pioneers like Icke who care for us enough to keep on fighting for us- to help us. [/quote] Dear earthakit ,
David Icke is well known to have Endorsed the viewpoints outlined in the Protocols in His books - go to WIKIPEDIA and look up it's entry on David Icke - He puts His Own variation on the Elite Conspiracy Theory but then The Protocols have always been slightly altered by whichever
Anti-Semite is propogating them at that time .
Yes - David may have tried to distance Himself from allegations of Anti-Semitism - but His contact with the Far Right/Militia Groups & His regurgitating of The Protocols make Him very suspect in the eyes of the Jewish Community .
" WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM "
The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion are well known to have have been a Forgery written by the Tsarist Secret Police between 1895 & 1899 . They were Plagarised from composites of 2 books : " Biarritz " by Herman Goedsche
& " A Dialogue In Hell Between Montesquien And Machiavelli " by Maurice Joly "
The Protocols were used to incite Pogroms against Jews as a way of attacking the growing Revolutionary Movement by Scapegoating Jews . The Protocols were then adopted by the Nazis Who used Them as a justification for the Holocaust in which 6 Million Jews were murdered .
Today in the 21st Century The Protocols are being republished
by new generations of Islamic Extremists, Neo-Nazis,and even the Idiot-Wing of the Far Left - History has shown the Lethal nature of The Protocols and David Icke should think again before He plays With Fire by Endorsing Them !!!
earthakit wrote:
Nobody has mentioned the common people that happen to be Jews. As Icke has said, they're just as fooled as everybody else. As to the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion- some people have obviously not read them, because the points in the Protocls - WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM- have been implimented little by little - and one by one. And YES, there is a CONSPIRACY - AGAINST the common, every day people of the world, which is why there is all the economic, political prolems - and racial divisiveness, and invention of religions. When you're told there are no conspiracies, and made to look like a fool for believing there is, check out JUST who is telling you that - the general news media- or the government (3 Branches) or military, the 3 which are hand-in-glove together? All 3 working together? You have to use your logic, look around and connect the dots, across the Board. It really is time to stop being embarrassed that people should say, you believe in Conspiracies, and stop letting skeptics and shills get away with making one look like fools. Time to talk back FORCEFULLY. We have much to lose otherwise. Thank God there are brave pioneers like Icke who care for us enough to keep on fighting for us- to help us.
Dear earthakit ,
David Icke is well known to have Endorsed the viewpoints outlined in the Protocols in His books - go to WIKIPEDIA and look up it's entry on David Icke - He puts His Own variation on the Elite Conspiracy Theory but then The Protocols have always been slightly altered by whichever
Anti-Semite is propogating them at that time .
Yes - David may have tried to distance Himself from allegations of Anti-Semitism - but His contact with the Far Right/Militia Groups & His regurgitating of The Protocols make Him very suspect in the eyes of the Jewish Community .
" WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM "
The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion are well known to have have been a Forgery written by the Tsarist Secret Police between 1895 & 1899 . They were Plagarised from composites of 2 books : " Biarritz " by Herman Goedsche
& " A Dialogue In Hell Between Montesquien And Machiavelli " by Maurice Joly "
The Protocols were used to incite Pogroms against Jews as a way of attacking the growing Revolutionary Movement by Scapegoating Jews . The Protocols were then adopted by the Nazis Who used Them as a justification for the Holocaust in which 6 Million Jews were murdered .
Today in the 21st Century The Protocols are being republished
by new generations of Islamic Extremists, Neo-Nazis,and even the Idiot-Wing of the Far Left - History has shown the Lethal nature of The Protocols and David Icke should think again before He plays With Fire by Endorsing Them !!!
Posted by: earthakit2, NY on 9:02pm Mon 12 May 08
Yes, I understand and appreciate, that you are trying to teach me about the Protocols and the Pogroms against the Jews.
Of course, who in their Sprititual Self wants wrongs done to others? I certainly don't!
But you have to also know what is going on. I think it is pertinent to read these Protocols. Whoever wrote them and from whatever source they've come from - I believe it's a leak from the Unbalanced Force.
And don't doubt that they're being implemented.
Have you read them?
Who really are the Elders of Zion?
As to the Pogroms, if you do research,serious research with an open mind, and not with the mind to be offended, you will find that the instigators of the Pogroms were Jewish leaders - NOT the poor, everyday Jewish people - like you and me. And not to mention that the originators of Marxism were Jews.
And I also want to remind, that later, the survivors of the concentration camps were/are witness to the fact that the intermediaries between the prisoners and the Nazis in the camps - were Jewish and these were the WORST abusers, and crueler to their own Jewish people than the Nazis.
I'm not making this up, or trying to hurt Jews. This has been documented.
So were do we stand? Something is wrong in representation here. Who is really responsible for all the genocides and cruelty.
IMO, what is going on here, is that some Force is standing behind the false propaganda that Jews are responsible, some Unbalanced Force is behind what has gone on. Is going on. And pretending it's the Jews.
I don't think it's human beings causing all the chaos, because in ourselves, we are NOT capable of doing such horrors.
But you can't deny - and hide your eyes and put blinkers on, that something is wrong. You can't say tht this that or the other is a forgery and refuse to read it, and not be aware of the contents of the text of the Protocols.
Yes, I understand and appreciate, that you are trying to teach me about the Protocols and the Pogroms against the Jews.
Of course, who in their Sprititual Self wants wrongs done to others? I certainly don't!
But you have to also know what is going on. I think it is pertinent to read these Protocols. Whoever wrote them and from whatever source they've come from - I believe it's a leak from the Unbalanced Force.
And don't doubt that they're being implemented.
Have you read them?
Who really are the Elders of Zion?
As to the Pogroms, if you do research,serious research with an open mind, and not with the mind to be offended, you will find that the instigators of the Pogroms were Jewish leaders - NOT the poor, everyday Jewish people - like you and me. And not to mention that the originators of Marxism were Jews.
And I also want to remind, that later, the survivors of the concentration camps were/are witness to the fact that the intermediaries between the prisoners and the Nazis in the camps - were Jewish and these were the WORST abusers, and crueler to their own Jewish people than the Nazis.
I'm not making this up, or trying to hurt Jews. This has been documented.
So were do we stand? Something is wrong in representation here. Who is really responsible for all the genocides and cruelty.
IMO, what is going on here, is that some Force is standing behind the false propaganda that Jews are responsible, some Unbalanced Force is behind what has gone on. Is going on. And pretending it's the Jews.
I don't think it's human beings causing all the chaos, because in ourselves, we are NOT capable of doing such horrors.
But you can't deny - and hide your eyes and put blinkers on, that something is wrong. You can't say tht this that or the other is a forgery and refuse to read it, and not be aware of the contents of the text of the Protocols.
Posted by: earthakit2, ny on 9:15pm Mon 12 May 08
Ian: You also said as re. Icke: "He plays With Fire by Endorsing Them !!!"
In all fairness to Icke, I have read his writings, and always have seen that Icke is ONLY presenting them for people to peruse and be AWARE of what is going on. Icke has NEVER endorsed the Protocols, he's only showing them to people.
In a court of law, the accused should be aware of what they're being accused of.
Don't you think that's the right thing?
I have skimmed through the Protocols - they can only cause people to shudder in horror.
It is so obvious an Unbalanced Force is behind them.
It is obvious it is NOT human beings, of any religion or race of this Planet.
Icke is a Spiritual person. So, to be fair to Icke, in all his writings, has NEVER endorsed the Protocols.
Ian: You also said as re. Icke: "He plays With Fire by Endorsing Them !!!"
In all fairness to Icke, I have read his writings, and always have seen that Icke is ONLY presenting them for people to peruse and be AWARE of what is going on. Icke has NEVER endorsed the Protocols, he's only showing them to people.
In a court of law, the accused should be aware of what they're being accused of.
Don't you think that's the right thing?
I have skimmed through the Protocols - they can only cause people to shudder in horror.
It is so obvious an Unbalanced Force is behind them.
It is obvious it is NOT human beings, of any religion or race of this Planet.
Icke is a Spiritual person. So, to be fair to Icke, in all his writings, has NEVER endorsed the Protocols.
Posted by: Ian Sternberg, Harwell on 3:18pm Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]earthakit2[/bold] wrote:
Ian: You also said as re. Icke: "He plays With Fire by Endorsing Them !!!" In all fairness to Icke, I have read his writings, and always have seen that Icke is ONLY presenting them for people to peruse and be AWARE of what is going on. Icke has NEVER endorsed the Protocols, he's only showing them to people. In a court of law, the accused should be aware of what they're being accused of. Don't you think that's the right thing? I have skimmed through the Protocols - they can only cause people to shudder in horror. It is so obvious an Unbalanced Force is behind them. It is obvious it is NOT human beings, of any religion or race of this Planet. Icke is a Spiritual person. So, to be fair to Icke, in all his writings, has NEVER endorsed the Protocols. [/quote] Dear earthakit2 ,
It is so obvious that the The Tsarist Secret Police were behind the Protocols -not some
" Unbalanced Force "
Just to clarify - I don't hate David or wish Him Harm - I think that He is a strange combination of Someone Who is suffering from Mental Illness and Someone Who is clever enough to make a lucrative living by spouting New Age/Conspiracy Theories .
I just think that Everybody should be very careful not to give the Oxygen Of Publicity to Hate Publications Like The Protocols ,
Mein Kamph , The Turner Diaries etc .
earthakit2 wrote:
Ian: You also said as re. Icke: "He plays With Fire by Endorsing Them !!!" In all fairness to Icke, I have read his writings, and always have seen that Icke is ONLY presenting them for people to peruse and be AWARE of what is going on. Icke has NEVER endorsed the Protocols, he's only showing them to people. In a court of law, the accused should be aware of what they're being accused of. Don't you think that's the right thing? I have skimmed through the Protocols - they can only cause people to shudder in horror. It is so obvious an Unbalanced Force is behind them. It is obvious it is NOT human beings, of any religion or race of this Planet. Icke is a Spiritual person. So, to be fair to Icke, in all his writings, has NEVER endorsed the Protocols.
Dear earthakit2 ,
It is so obvious that the The Tsarist Secret Police were behind the Protocols -not some
" Unbalanced Force "
Just to clarify - I don't hate David or wish Him Harm - I think that He is a strange combination of Someone Who is suffering from Mental Illness and Someone Who is clever enough to make a lucrative living by spouting New Age/Conspiracy Theories .
I just think that Everybody should be very careful not to give the Oxygen Of Publicity to Hate Publications Like The Protocols ,
Mein Kamph , The Turner Diaries etc .
Posted by: Ian Sternberg, Harwell on 4:15pm Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]earthakit2[/bold] wrote:
Yes, I understand and appreciate, that you are trying to teach me about the Protocols and the Pogroms against the Jews. Of course, who in their Sprititual Self wants wrongs done to others? I certainly don\'t! But you have to also know what is going on. I think it is pertinent to read these Protocols. Whoever wrote them and from whatever source they\'ve come from - I believe it\'s a leak from the Unbalanced Force. And don\'t doubt that they\'re being implemented. Have you read them? Who really are the Elders of Zion? As to the Pogroms, if you do research,serious research with an open mind, and not with the mind to be offended, you will find that the instigators of the Pogroms were Jewish leaders - NOT the poor, everyday Jewish people - like you and me. And not to mention that the originators of Marxism were Jews. And I also want to remind, that later, the survivors of the concent
